People get their panties in a wad when you use that H word anymore.
Perhaps you should call yourself a clanker ranker, and you rank it at a zero…
i like the cut of your jib, but are people really down on ‘hater’?
I think some people will reject criticism by calling someone a hater. Like, if you point out legitimate concerns about their favorite game or movie they’ll say “you’re just a hater” so they don’t have to do the emotionally challenging work of considering flaws in their favored things.
We’re all emotional creatures and things like the backfire effect affect us all, but some people seem exclusively emotion driven
I feel like most people who hate AI really hate the dipshits who monopolized the sector and have been blowing it like a balloon, fooling oaf CEOs and destroying people’s livelihood in exchange of profit.
AGI research, if it achieves its end goals, can help us also learn a lot of things about consciousness, creativity, feelings, mental diseases etc etc (along with a horde of ethical problems too…). Moreover if AI was properly used for benefit of humanity to ease the burden of mundane tasks and give people more time for their life and hobbies, it could be quite beneficial. But again we are living in a generation of power hungry, mentally deranged, soulless dipshit CEOs, shareholders and politicians. So maybe some civilization that comes later will make better use of it (provided we don’t autodestruct).
I think the search for a perfect slave is kinda disgusting. I think llms are a bad technology made in an evil way. I think pretending computers can speak is an insult to personhood, and that creating tools to generate mediocrity at scale is anti-human.
Some technologies are just bad and we should not make them.
Why do you mod this subreddit
Yea fully conscious AGIs obviously shouldn’t be used for that purpose, that is not different from slavery. Whether or not it could be researched ethically is even not sure. Doesn’t mean we should stop thinking about it though.
I am thinking more like if there ever was an energy efficient and less error prone version of the LLMs today, it could in principal be beneficial if they were used to deal with mundane tasks, reducing work times while keeping the same workforce and salary. We all know it is hard to push things that way because soon as there is some tech that is capable of automated work, CEOs, and shareholders will insist on reducing the workforce to increase profits. So for non general AI to be useful to humanity, we obviously need some sort of social reform along with it too. Which does make it very hard to turn the net negative effects of current AI tech to positive. But this also does not make non general AI research inherently evil. Evil people will almost always try to monopolize on new tech to increase their profits at the cost of destroying other people’s livelihoods. One can categorize even advances in computer tech or dedicated software in the same bucket.
As to the question of moderation, I was actually added to the mod list without asking for it. Happy to be removed as I am not a very active mod.
Wow, so brave
Enjoy your little echo bubble chamber, so your liwwle feewings don’t get hurt as you get left behind by people using those tools.
Not even necessarily because they’re better than you, but because management values them and people who use them, and therefore you’re choosing to leave yourself at an irrational disadvantage for no fucking reason.
You’re an idiot.
Stop. You’re embarrassing yourself. I am embarrassed for you.
it’s funny you mention echo chambers because the whole point to AI is to generate an echo of human interaction.
the end user is literally responding to echos of human responses.
on top of it all, AI enthusiast communities (even here on lemmy) have outright banned anyone arguing against AI. yet…here you still are on the anti-ai community spouting your drivel.
it’s hilarious that AI supporting shills are so deep in their psychosis they can’t even manage to see the hypocrisy they self-promote.
step away from the AI dude. it has damaged your cognitive abilities.
You’re so deep in YOUR echo chamber that you don’t see my argument for what it is lmao. I’m talking about jobs, idiot.
are you? I just thought it was some nonsensical ramblings of a psychosis addled brain.
my mistake.
I’m too stupid to understand what you’re trying to say, can you articulate your point better so I can understand?
I’m too stupid
We finally agree on something.
and yet you still fail to explain your point.
either you don’t have a point or you’re unable to communicate due to extensive AI brain rot.
which is it?
Either you read my original point, or you keep circling the pot and resorting to red herrings and straw-men because your fallacious ass is not rational enough to reply to the heart of the matter which I presented in my original comment.
Enjoy your little echo bubble chamber, so your liwwle feewings don’t get hurt as you get left behind by people using those tools.
nothing about jobs. just petulance.
Not even necessarily because they’re better than you, but because management values them and people who use them, and therefore you’re choosing to leave yourself at an irrational disadvantage for no fucking reason.
nothing about jobs. just ranting about management values and disadvantages based on management perception.
You’re an idiot.
couldn’t have said it better myself.
I could reply to the same person that you are, but I felt it was much funnier if I reply to your comment and say that I love how I can feel your incredulous exasperation, and that I relate.
This is a fairly trite comment, and it is very echo-chambery, in the sense that you’re the preacher, I’m the choir. However, as you point out, LLMs and Generative AI make the phrase “echo chamber” far more literal. I feel like it’s funny to engage in parallel conversation with you, while ignoring the pro-AI oddball you’re replying to.
Better to be an idiot than management’s yappy lapdog.
Then don’t get hired I guess? How’s your air-based diet?
Gobal Finance: Companies Face AI Buyer’s Remorse.
Vice: This Company Replaced Workers With AI. Now They’re Looking for Humans Again.
Techfinitive: 2025: the year of rehiring humans after AI fails.
One more thing: Don’t assume people that don’t like the synthetic text extrusion machines that people refer to as “AI” don’t know anything about how they work, or how to integrate and deploy them. I think you’d be surprised at the sorts of people hanging out in c/FuckAI.
But what do I know, I make sandwiches for a living ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As much of an idiot as someone who goes to a group literally called “Fuck AI” and is shocked to the core that people in the group might not like LLMbeciles and the plain old imbeciles using them?
It’s not about the idiots using them, it’s about the idiots hiring them. If you don’t conform to the job market out of sheer stubbornness you’re a fucking dumbass.
So anything, no matter how foolish or evil, is acceptable so long as “the market” desires it? Complaining about it makes you a dumbass?
Or are there things that should be pushed back on? What is the line?
Also, is it “sheer stubbornness” is a collection of concerns and objections grounded in facts and experience?
The “experience” as you call it would be getting rejected by jobs that assume AI usage has become necessary.
There is no line in finding a job, it’s an existential need, you can’t live without food or water you can only buy from the money you get paid. So the “line” is moral. You’re denying job opportunities for morals 🙄…
There is no line in finding a job, it’s an existential need
There is no line? Absolutely nothing? You would work at an Auschwitz styled concentration camp for food money?
Because AI = Auschwitz, clearly an argument from a sane mind.
That wasn’t the argument nor the question. The question is where do you draw the line. I gave an extreme example I assumed is on the far side of your line. Once we have that, we can do like a binary search and try to find it. Come on, man.
Please clarify, are you a person who hates AI, or an AI designed to hate?
