It’s wilder when it works in the installer, but not on first boot.
I have altered the drivers, pray I do not alter them further.
The amount of times I’ve pulled the trigger only to have to delve into forms and git repos trying to find a driver.
This was Zorin for me.
Dual screen worked without issue on live USB. Installed on metal and dual screen no longer worked…
Never got it figured out. I just moved to a different distro.
Ah yes, the ‘Arch Linux’ experience. To be fair, your machine boots really really fast when you don’t read the install guide carefully enough and fail to put a network stack on. Valuable learning opportunity.
I have yet to be brave enough to try. I’m not sure my ego can handle how bad I’ll fuck it up.
To be fair, their installation page is excellent, but it does require close reading. Where I’d messed up was the “install essential packages” section, where it just says to “consider installing” stuff which is essential really - firmware, network stack, a text editor. If you’re able to access the internet and adjust configuration files, then you can install everything else you need.
Their suggested disk partitioning has a gigabyte for efi, which is twice what I’d recommend, and includes a swap partition, which I would not create. A swap file is just as good, and more flexible. Otherwise yeah, if you can install Arch, you can probably do all the Linux maintenance you’ll ever need to do, and it’s not that difficult - practise in a VM if you want - and will make you much more skilled and confident.
I bought a media center pc around 2000 and installed Ubuntu. The only thing that didn’t work out of the box was sound through HDMI. Figured it out the same day.
I had this experience with my l14 thinkpad and Fedora.
I was shocked that even the fingerprint reader worked… well like half the time, but I don’t like using it anyway.
I have a kink for installing Linux on Macs. The only thing I ever have trouble with is wifi, particularly on my 2011 MacBook Pro.
Oh, and the trackpad gets significantly shitter, but that’s just life.
I installed endeavouros on my 2015 pro and nothing made the WiFi work. Reinstalled macOS.
After a few days I thought screw it, I’ll try other distros. Popos just boots and works out of the box ….
I kinda wish I hadn’t sold my 2015 MBP Pro when I got my M2 Air. I wasn’t messing about with Linux then, but with hindsight it would have been an excellent machine. I had it running Ventura (I think it was) via OCLP, which was great, but the fans were basically constant. Turns out that it was likely just macOS/OCLP.
Currently running Kubuntu off a thumb drive plugged into my 2011 MBP and I honestly don’t think I’ve heard the fan on it. Running Ventura on the same machine was like trying to work next to a jet engine.
Regarding the title,
If you’ve enough distros then you must’ve encountered the scenario where the driver worked in installer but did not in the final installation
I literally ran into this last night trying to install Cachyos on my old surface. I was relieved when the wireless worked in the installer and so incredibly confused when it doesn’t now… I’m still trying to fix it lol.
Lol yea, I was wondering if anyone was going to catch that, but at least then it was usually a “Why didn’t you just install it‽” rather than a 6 hour marathon of patches and drivers compiled from source or some shit LMAO
Endeavour
I threw together spare computer parts and a new hard drive, installed Bazzite, Steam, and did an entire Dark Souls 1 playthrough without issue using an xbox controller.
Waiting for things to go awry now. Kinda feels like an Ambrose Bierce story playing out.
I get suspicious when everything just works on a laptop.
I never had anything NOT work on a laptop. I installed Linux on 5 of them.
These days, that’s pleasantly true :)
15 years ago was a different story. You’d have about a 50/50 shot of your trackpad working, one in three that your WiFi would work, and if you were hoping for a working webcam, you should just forget about it.
So even in modern times when you do an install and everything mostly just works, it still feels suspiciously miraculous.
These are the kinds of things that remind us how far we’ve come :)
I have barely had any of those issues in almost 20 years of linux use. The worst I remember dealibg with was cups back in the day. Certainly almost everything I’ve installed linux on in the last 10 years has just worked.
The only exception has been installing linux on old chrome books.
It used to be pretty bad before hardware standardization.
So, are you trying to say it’s the year of the Linux desktop?
Lemme have a seizure real quick
Debian 13.
Tried open suse, but on my laptop it was slow and loud and the battery would die almost instantly (had to make it hibernate rather than suspend if I wanted it to make it through the night).
Installed Debian 13 and it feels like a new laptop. Not sure what exactly made the difference between the two but I’m not complaining…
Tried to install Debian 13 yesterday
Didn’t even boot xD
Since I needed something stable, I installed Fedora Kionite and it worked flawlessly on the first try
Oh shit. I’m better at installing Linux than Linus. That’s freaking amazing!
I’ve had a similar problem trying to install Debian 12 in the past…
Turned out it was the USB drive, I think. It didn’t have a problem booting and installing Mint, but with Debian it just wouldn’t boot. A different drive and it worked right away and flawlessly.
Must be a thinkpad lol
Dell surprisingly lmao
As far as I know DELLs are decent, especially latitudes.
Their corpo stuff is (incl. Latitudes). Their consumer stuff (like XPS) apparently not so much.
My current and previous laptops were/are Dell and I can count on one hand the number of hardware issues I’ve had with Linux (minus the Nvidia GPU but yknow. Nvidia.)
I have a latitude 5290, the only issue is with sleep on the Intel kabby-lake, but it isn’t a Linux exclusive, as the drivers on windows include the issue bypass.
The last time I had something not automatically detected was on a ~2003 obscure “gaming” laptop (or what passed for gaming back then)
When my laptop was pretty new, I would have to update Linux Mint’s kernel for the trackpad to work. The older kernel it defaulted to didn’t support it but the update manager could get a newer one that worked. The Wi-Fi driver actually worked better in Linux than in Windows.
Yeah, it’s been pretty straight forward for standard components for the last twenty years. (But I also tend to buy PCs that are known to be Linux friendly. That might be a reason for my lack of complaints in this area.)
So Linux Mint then!
I’m actually having a better time of it after switching to Bazzite. I had a bunch of strange little issues on Mint that seem to be gone after switching. I switched as a hail Mary for an issue where 3D Games would freeze randomly, and that seems to be gone too thankfully
also, your system is immutable now, so
you CAN’T break it
Give me an hour I’ll see what I can do.
Ok then. When you install Bazzite into a VM/a real pc, that’s when your timer starts.
(or maybe this comment shall go to c/wooosh)
Yeah, two seconds in: “no, you’re not supposed to do that, obviously it’ll break if you do that”
Is this some sort of Ubuntu joke I’m too Arch to understand?
Right? Arch detects all my hardware. Its my favorite Gentoo install medium.