I use Void btw
I love that I enjoy both “systemd sucks” memes AND “please shut up about systemd” ones!
when it doesn’t affect you, and it doesn’t for the vast majority… you can just sit back and enjoy the show.
Now that the “I hate systemd” movement is mostly dead, it’s become funny again.
I like systemd.
Put the gun down, let’s talk about this
Can agree, it’s like a well integrated interface between userspace and kernel
So I didn’t understand it, and now the more I understand it it seems like a more completely abstracted interface for doing what we need service management to do, which is manage services.
At this point we’ve gone past the point of people doing the thing and now it’s just people ragging on imaginary people doing the thing
I see, you haven’t been to the phoronix forum in a while. Enjoy. Comments: systemd Saw A Record Number Of Commits In 2024
Every single post that even slightly touches on something that could be construed to be systemd-adjacent has the whiners in it here in Lemmy.
They cannot let it go, and I feel like this post is very necessary
Oh no, I recently saw someone shitting on it still. They exist!
Most have just wisened up and moved to a systemd-less sphere, I assume, rather than fighting a lost battle on a niche hill.
Kind of the same syndrome of that people that want to feel opressed by made up reasons
Is that what we’re going to do today, Kitty? We’re going to fight?
It works but so do the others. I still maintain a sysvinit machine and it works just fine. This cartoon is just another example of someone who picked their team and now hates all the other teams. Someone who thinks anyone who thinks differently from them is stupid. Or they are just another troll.
I don’t like systemd on the meta level but I must admit that it’s quite pleasant to use. So I’m not quite on the fence about it but rather of the opinion that both camps are correct in their own way.
What if my team is the “use whatever and stfu about systemd” team?
someone who picked their team and now hates all the other team
False. All the other teams are varying degrees of well-built. Systemd is badly-built by bad people and pushed via market dominance. It’s the Internet Explorer of inits.
Hey guys I found the pig!
I found the fart smelling hipster
Yo mama so dumb she stores all her archives as exFAT.
Oink
Once again, give me a reasonable alternative and a distro that implements it, or stop whining.
Alternatives still alive and kicking: OpenRC, Runit, Dinit, s6
Gentoo (Systemd or Openrc), Artix (multiple choices), Void (Runit), PCLinuxOS (SysV), Obarun (s6), Alpine (Openrc, still transitioning to s6). Devuan (Runit + SysV) doesn’t do it well. Gobolinux has program partitioning, Chimera moved to FreeBSD. And a vew nearly-forgotten Distros that never used Systemd at all, like Slackware, AntiX, MX Linux, Nitrux.
Artix and PCLinuxOS are imo the best pick for Desktop without hassle, Obarun and Void for console, Alpine for server.
s6 has user services built-in, dinit uses turnstile for that and, with seatd, additionally as elogind-alternative.
dont use artix
i used it for a year, if you add arch repos (which you have to if you want to install anything useful) package issues get worse with every update, eventualy you have to add shit ton of ignore and assume installed flags to each pacman command
MX Linux, nearly forgotten???
Gentoo with OpenRC is a good option imo
Half of these don’t even handle logging
Logging like logfiles? That’s the job of a syslog daemon.
I personally don’t care if my system has systemd or anything, as long as it works & completed any task that i give i don’t have complaints against it.
I genuinely have never heard of systemd before other than the meme about finding the next Friday the 13th or something
I’ve used Linux for a off and on combined total of 6 months (not counting Steamdeck desktop use)
