If you don’t care about others you don’t deserve to be cared for. It’s not complicated.
Golden rule is a good one to live by.
I agree on this. But I feel all of civilization is like this, and that I should not care about it, because I didn’t get even basic treatment, but had all the responsibilities of a healthy person.
Why would I care about something so cruel, so twisted?
Society fails a lot of people. That’s not your fault, and you shouldn’t feel bad about feeling that way. That’s society’s fault.
Read the Law of One. It explains it well.
I don’t care about others, therefore I don’t care who they love, what they do with their bodies, how and where they live their life as long as it doesn’t impact my choices and my life.
Would I be in that second camp then?
Do you care if they’re locked up or killed because of who they love, what they do with their bodies, or how and where they live their life?
That’s the type of care we’re talking about.
Would you stand up and speak up on someones behalf if injustice was done to them and they couldn’t defend themselves?
I know it’s a bit harsh and just a different interpretation but one could easily read your stance as “at least i don’t actively hurt others, so dont shame me for not caring about them as long as it doesn’t affect me”
Again a bit harsh i know but maybe worth thinking about 乁( •_• )ㄏ
Would you stand up and speak up on someones behalf if injustice was done to them and they couldn’t defend themselves?
In front of me? Yes, but i wouldn’t go volunteering saving oppressed people.
Seems like to an extent you do care
Only so long as shame has power. Once it doesn’t, that mask come off.
I had to pretend to not care about others, because you actually get shamed if you do care. So I push forward all sorts of anti-social things, because it’s best we just end this society thing now and stop hurting each other.
Humans are clearly unworthy of having societies. So I run on 0 trust.
Name checks out
OK, doomer.
It’s not just about caring for others. They get offended by seeing anybody be a better person in any way, so they want to criminalize being a good person to never feel inferior to others again, without having to actually do anything good themselves.
Kind of tall poppy-ish isn’t it? Even just acknowledging that good can be done can trigger some really hostile reactions from people.
Like I get it, we’ve been trained into it to manage the information density and society we find ourselves in, but surely you’d expect the human part to kick in at some point right?
Oh there is further division.
There’s also those who understand that they care too much for their own good and try not to.
And then there is those that are good at finding out what others care about and using it against them.There are also those who care too much about others’ good (sort of). Codependency.
Add a third category for those who willingly oppress others.
1: Those who value human life
2: and those who don’t
It’s kind of the eternal struggle when you think about it
It’s :
- Those who value human life and
- Those who $$value$$ human life
I don’t care about other people at all. Leave me alone and let me be.
But I also don’t believe that anyone should go homeless or hungry when we have billionaires with plenty of money to share, which is why I refuse to vote republican.
Bottom line is that people annoy me, but I still have empathy.
Hello, fellow empathetic misanthrope (or is that “misanthropic empath”?)
They do care about others, but only the ones they know.
People they don’t know, they don’t care about at all.
That is why when they meet someone of the “others” and they make a connection, they call them “one of the good ones”. The rest of the same group they still don’t care about, just that one person.
This. Even Hitler liked his dog and I’ve never heard of him abusing his wife. There are for sure psychopaths (or was it sociopaths?) who genuinely don’t care about literally anybody, but you don’t need that condition to massmurder.
Hitler iirc, tried to smuggle out a jew, in an ironic twist.
I really don’t know how to convince people they should care about others.
I don’t know how to teach empathy.
Western capitalistic mantra idolizes individualism. Its so ingrained in the culture that you can actually not care about anyone outside of your ingroup and do okay. In other cultures you would be cooked.
Lack of empathy is a natural consequence of the culture. I always find it fascinating that people here relish in their disdain towards others. Don’t get me wrong people can be annoying.
But when you combine disdain for others with a perception of patriotism that is centered on violence, you are creating the optimal conditions for fascism to take root.
It’s simply a property you have or don’t have. Obviously it’s a more meaningful, deeper thing than being a bootstraps sociopath. But the thing is, if someone needs an actual reason to have empathy, then they just aren’t truly a good person really.
The way I try to convince them, is by saying that empathy is the reason they are here, and have what they do. And that like others gave to them, they should give to others. It’s like a retroactive deal, where the reason the whole thing works, is because you pay forward to the next generation, in hopes that they will do the same.
Then we got generations of bootstrap sociopaths that leave their own children in impossible situations. They don’t care about right or wrong.
You’re taught empathy by empathetic parents.
And we see now a lot of families have a long lineage of cunts.
My father wondering why my brother is psychotic, after he laughed at and teased him every time he cried, and told him men don’t cry. I knew this, and tried the soft approach, but he told me he is way older and more experienced, that he knows what he is doing.
My brother broke his hand with a stick. To be fair, I found it hard to be empathetic to a child crying because they didn’t get something also, I’d just crack up if it was something absurd, I couldn’t help it. We lived like absolute shit, and he is freaking out because he lost in a game.
There are two types of people in the world. The type of people who try to divide the world into different types of people; and the type of people who don’t.
It’s crazy to me that the people around me would rather “accidentally” harm someone that doesn’t deserve it than accidentally help someone that might not deserve it
Fuck me that’s a good way to put it.
It’s up to us, to apply plain force, economic or otherwise to get these people in line. It’s the sad reality. We have two options: do something about it, or let it burn, and hope more of us than them survive.
I like this. Well said.
So close
Get rid of billionaires
Without billionaires we’re all or the majority of all of us get to compete on a level playing field and have fewer problems. It won’t create a utopia because we’re just a bunch of messed up monkeys but at least it would be a better situation than what we have now.
