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The real ship was the one we made along the way
I think it’s the same ship if “the same ship” means shape, style, performance, etc. it retains the same form but has been fully repaired
Kinda like how cars come off of the production line are all made out of different parts but are “the same car” and by extension when they’re subsequently crashed and fully rebuilt by YouTube channels!
Edit: for context’s sake, I think the article is the same as well. Different phrasing to get the same point across on the same page/url
is my car still my car if i plop a new drivetrain in it?
If it’s the same model of drivetrain, like a replacement one, I’d say yes.
what if i’m putting an electric one in to comply with new emissions laws and get a break on tolls
Partially different car then.
how about if i’m adding pop up headlights and t-tops through which to better express my personality (pop up headlights and t-tops are cool)
“Debate solved”
Pandoras box opened they must mean.
If I replace the part of the ship with an identical one nothing about the function of the ship changes.
But words and sentences carry information and any change to it alters that information, even if it’s still about the same subject. The newer sentences may also be written by different people then the original sentences
2 texts from different authors covering the same real life event are considered different. Even if they are sold by the same store and got their titles mixed up.
On the other side you could define a Wikipedia article with its transformative nature over time as one of its main properties, in which case this is just a later stage of that same wiki article. Which does feel accurate.
So its not the same text but it is the same wiki article.
The ship is still the ship identified by the same name and repairs are normal part of ship maintenance. But we don’t usually specify this transformative nature when we define a ship or anything else.
So is it solved?
I was just thinking that a reasonable person wouldn’t consider it the same article anymore. Subject is the same but the article has been completely changed
Thesus just needed version tracking
“It’s not the same article because you’re looking at version 2024-03-22-11-54-12-023a and I’m looking at version 2025-08-02-08-15-59-01b”
