i think you mean military instead of militant, any violent group is militant.
So being militant is still a civilian thing and using the military against civilians is a war crime.
Also using the military within your own borders is a crime.
So no it’s not a “very strong argument” it’s not an argument at all
You could make a very strong argument that the cartel is something for the country itself to deal with, or rely on help through organisations like INTERPOL and not just have the US decide it’s murder time for a random civillian they have no evidence on.
Except that they have in the past. Coast guard shows up in a big ass boat with guns, they don’t fight back. If drugs are found, they are confiscated, people are interrogated, leads to the organizational structure are worked on, etc. This was just murder. There is a strong reason for due process.
You can’t just eschew justice because cartels - but we both know they won’t come quietly.
You do the trial in absentia, then send a team to go ‘pick him up’ if he really does come quietly, he’ll go to prison, but we all know that’s not how it’ll go down.
Given the tactics cartels use to defend their turf and keep others in line, they’re one group of people I don’t really have an issue with being executed.
They’re worse than a lot of terrorist organisations.
You could make a very strong argument that a cartel member is a member of a militant group, they certainly use many of the same tactics
i think you mean military instead of militant, any violent group is militant. So being militant is still a civilian thing and using the military against civilians is a war crime. Also using the military within your own borders is a crime. So no it’s not a “very strong argument” it’s not an argument at all
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_humanitarian_law
Fine, terrorist organisation then. They’re certainly not above killing civilians themselves.
That would make them bad guys. Doing the same thing makes the US bad guys too
I agree, that’s why MAGA and the KKK should be executed in the stree- wait, is that not who we’re talking about? Oops, my bad.
I also support executing the Klan, yes.
You could make a very strong argument that the cartel is something for the country itself to deal with, or rely on help through organisations like INTERPOL and not just have the US decide it’s murder time for a random civillian they have no evidence on.
If you have a proper judicial process, some mistakes are caught. On the other hand, extra judicial killings have no recourse for mistakes.
Even the best processes and well intentioned humans make mistakes. Extra judicial process is a recipe for humanitarian disaster.
Unknown number of innocent people will be murdered in cold blood without remorse if such a policy is adopted.
I respect the sentiment, but there’s no way in hell these guys would surrender to law enforcement.
Except that they have in the past. Coast guard shows up in a big ass boat with guns, they don’t fight back. If drugs are found, they are confiscated, people are interrogated, leads to the organizational structure are worked on, etc. This was just murder. There is a strong reason for due process.
Prove it in court and put them in jail then.
You think you’re capturing these guys alive?
The coast guard does it on a daily basis.
Edit: Not the coastguard, but here’s an example from yesterday of them doing just that.
Facts are too hard for them, try a picture book.
No, but it’s still the correct way to do it.
Cool you can serve the arrest warrant then
I think you’re missing the point there.
You can’t just eschew justice because cartels - but we both know they won’t come quietly.
You do the trial in absentia, then send a team to go ‘pick him up’ if he really does come quietly, he’ll go to prison, but we all know that’s not how it’ll go down.
Given the tactics cartels use to defend their turf and keep others in line, they’re one group of people I don’t really have an issue with being executed.
They’re worse than a lot of terrorist organisations.