Here’s something that I think about that’s weird. With onedrive, if you don’t pay the subscription fee, they hold your files hostages until you do. That’s called a business model, but when people hold their files hostage it’s called ransomware. Weird how that works isn’t it?
I mean not providing a service because you stopped paying the cost you agreed to for the service is quite different from forcibly destroying random people’s data if they don’t give you as much money as you demand
It’s not like they remotely connect to your pc and wipe your hard drive if you don’t pay up
Yes. You’re paying for the storage space and access to it…I think “* as a service” is anti-consumer but I really don’t understand how anyone could think they’re entitled to keep using a service after they stop paying for it.
You are abandoning your files if you don’t download them before your subscription ends. Providers aren’t stealing it and holding it hostage…
So if someone is paid to help you load your groceries, and then because you don’t tip them, that means they’re allowed to take the groceries that they loaded back into the store?
False equivalence. You are not “tipping” cloud providers, you are paying them to perform a service.
Let’s try a modified analogy and put you in the scenario…
You digitize cassettes for a living. Someone across the country sends you one and asks you to convert it to an MP3. You received the tape and digitize it …but they refuse to send the money.
Are you allowed to not send the files? Are you allowed to not send the tape back? The answer to both is yes.
Not a false equivalence at all. People before you created this platform, you paid for said platform (let’s say windows. You purchase a prebuilt pc, so the operating system and access to the services are paid for at initial purchase (key point). THEN Microsoft says "Hey this service is involved. Check it out. We’ll store what you need. Download and register here… Sweet! It’s setup you got your files uploaded… Now pay me and I’m not letting you see or use the files without paying me.
So someone who works at a grocery store is paid to help you load your groceries in the car, but you don’t tip them. Does that mean they’re allowed to take whatever groceries they already loaded back into the store?
No, because that’s not what tips are for? But if you don’t pay for the groceries, then yeah, they should be allowed to not give you the groceries, because that’s how buying things works
But if you specifically agree to pay someone a certain amount of money to load your groceries in advance, then refuse to pay them, it’s totally valid for them to not load your groceries, because you didn’t pay for the service you bought
Here’s something that I think about that’s weird. With onedrive, if you don’t pay the subscription fee, they hold your files hostages until you do. That’s called a business model, but when people hold their files hostage it’s called ransomware. Weird how that works isn’t it?
I mean not providing a service because you stopped paying the cost you agreed to for the service is quite different from forcibly destroying random people’s data if they don’t give you as much money as you demand
It’s not like they remotely connect to your pc and wipe your hard drive if you don’t pay up
But they have control to your cloud files and they can and will lock those files from being pulled from the cloud
Isn’t it the same with all cloud files?
Yes. You’re paying for the storage space and access to it…I think “* as a service” is anti-consumer but I really don’t understand how anyone could think they’re entitled to keep using a service after they stop paying for it.
You are abandoning your files if you don’t download them before your subscription ends. Providers aren’t stealing it and holding it hostage…
So if someone is paid to help you load your groceries, and then because you don’t tip them, that means they’re allowed to take the groceries that they loaded back into the store?
False equivalence. You are not “tipping” cloud providers, you are paying them to perform a service.
Let’s try a modified analogy and put you in the scenario…
You digitize cassettes for a living. Someone across the country sends you one and asks you to convert it to an MP3. You received the tape and digitize it …but they refuse to send the money.
Are you allowed to not send the files? Are you allowed to not send the tape back? The answer to both is yes.
Not a false equivalence at all. People before you created this platform, you paid for said platform (let’s say windows. You purchase a prebuilt pc, so the operating system and access to the services are paid for at initial purchase (key point). THEN Microsoft says "Hey this service is involved. Check it out. We’ll store what you need. Download and register here… Sweet! It’s setup you got your files uploaded… Now pay me and I’m not letting you see or use the files without paying me.
How is that business model justified?
Sure, but you put them there, without taking backups, and then stopped paying them to keep them
So someone who works at a grocery store is paid to help you load your groceries in the car, but you don’t tip them. Does that mean they’re allowed to take whatever groceries they already loaded back into the store?
No, because that’s not what tips are for? But if you don’t pay for the groceries, then yeah, they should be allowed to not give you the groceries, because that’s how buying things works
But if you specifically agree to pay someone a certain amount of money to load your groceries in advance, then refuse to pay them, it’s totally valid for them to not load your groceries, because you didn’t pay for the service you bought
Jesus Christ on a bike
Weird how consent works