Holy moly!

Yeah I know. It was one prominent example I could think of on the spot but you can definitely be authoritarian without being a tankie

You just don’t like the idea of such an appalling group considering themselves as part of the left since thats where you think you belong and you want nothing to do with them. Yes russia and china aren’t truly socialist countries but far left people definitely also have authoritarian tendencies. Otherwise they would probably just be left.

I can confirm since I was the samurai!

Its really stupid. We need to work together in a country anyways to accomplish anything meaningful. While I don’t think the label far left is fit for dems I think this us vs them mentality definitely makes for a less constructive discussion

I think its funny how they keep bringing up democrats and say they are the far left end of the horseshoe. In my country dems would be considered center-right. I do not think they are like radical at all so I think thats why the comic is oversimplified.

I just think if we long term want to build a stable system that works for everybody we can’t just keep rerolling dice hoping a revolution would magically fix it all. I like my politics boring if it gets the job done and keeps improving and iterating on a better system

Are they far left? No? Then it doesn’t apply to the horseshoe theory since it doesn’t become closer aligned again

Far left is mostly also authoritarian. They say they want everyone to have the same rights but get angry or try to silence people that don’t agree with their radical ways. I’m not talking about the left in general but the far left. As such they see it needed to achieve their goals, even if it official is equality for example.

Edit: Removed “Tankies definitely are authoritarian.” They are kinda a weird case where they believe or say they believe in Marxist Leninist ideology but then support countries that dress as communist even if they are ruled by a small elite or are actually mostly capitalist. I believe they are kinda gullible far left with mostly a “US bad” sentiment so China and Russia must be good. They are not solely representative of far left authoritarianism

Didn’t they vote on it? If you were member of the democrats couldn’t you have voted for him in primaries? I honestly think many people in the US just aren’t progressive enough even if they’d benefit from it

The EU. I don’t use google search. I use a degoogled android rom firefox and only use the bare minimum of google search engines. I think the government should promote conditions where fair competition against google is actually possible.

I’m all for legislation that properly makes companies price in external effects. What I do not support is the state taking an active role in the market. Legislation is created for a reason but needs to be reformed and slimmed down once in a while. The government does not adjust fast enough imo and I think it should focus on core tasks instead of creating search engines.

So much for having a reasonably discussion. Calling me a hopeless nerd. You sure must be fun to be around.

Its not just an server name since the moderators there remove stuff that doesn’t fit their narrative and people with according ideology often are on these servers. It makes a real difference. You can check it out because users that find an instance that fits their personal beliefs create their account there and its a Marxist Leninist community. But you don’t actually seem to care.

Look, the goverment is good at providing a good starter set of things you need for life. Infrastructure has no real competition so the infrastructure needs to be state owned since we can’t have it fail. I would look favorably if the government funded an open initiative to build a FOSS search index… but I think a search engine isn’t something like core infrastructure that can only reasonably exist once.

Besides… SearxNG is just a relay engine and if every european used it and relayed the search request to other search engines without them getting a dime I don’t think that would be fair.

Lemmy also isn’t developed by the state. It might get funding from the goverment but thats a very different thing - Core research that doesn’t have a straight up ROI is also one of the things where everyone benefits of it long term falls under something the government should do. I just don’t think the government is good at running an economical business and I can’t imagine living in a country where every company was like state-run with a top-down system. Competition is good, what we have is a lack of competition

I have switched away from google mostly. Most people can do so too. Yes they do have a monopoly on search and I think the government should take steps to ensure fair competition but I don’t think the ban hammer should be wielded this lightly. If they pay the fine. Searxng is just a relay search engine and I doubt it is legal for such a big instance to use search engines as back end, have them run it for free and then have the people use Searx instead.

Because our legal system is made in a way where they technically are not a crime

They use bing tho. I personally like Qwant as they fall under GDPR and are european. Also they are working on building an independent search index.

Reddit search engine? Hell nah I want more federated communities. Reddit has a contract with google anyways that blocks out foreign web crawlers.

List a country with a decent population of like at least 50 mio people that competes with companies successfully and fairly. Countries with a smaller population don’t have as much of a bureaucratic overhead. But even there… where do they offer a better service in a fair competition with companies