If I had a nickel for every time people on lemmy discredited voting 3rd party or progressive candidates under the excuse of “muh RCV” or “vote blue no matter who”, I’d have enough money to bribe the DNC into splitting into multiple parties.
Not only that, they’ll yell at the people who voted for anti-genocide candidates. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been told that I voted for genocide, by vorting for an anti-genocide candidate.
Yeup, same here. They’re just trying to use the genocide now to guilt-trip voters who didn’t support Harris. Because her genocide would’ve been better, I guess??
She had an entire year to put her foot down and say, “This is fucked!” and the best thing she could say was “We gotta make a deal.” No details, no idea what kind of a deal. Oh, and lots of excuses for Israel.
If you actually want to make things better then you have to use methods that have a chance of actually working. We have overwhelming historical evidence showing that voting third-party doesn’t.
You said that “voting third party doesn’t work”. The vast majority of voters do not vote for alternative parties or candidates, so no, it hasn’t been tried.
Did you mean to say “Running third party doesn’t work”?
No, Pakistan does not have RCV. Hell they don’t even have a qualified election system with the amount of falsified ballots, yet the third party still defeated that system.
Of course I see a difference. I see the systems that the Democrats and Republicans built coming to fruition. I see the trends that the Democrats ignored increased. I see the societal problems from then tuned up a few notches, because the Democrats were too busy bombing kids, backing a genocide, and bailing out their rich friends to fix.
If I had a nickel for every time people on lemmy discredited voting 3rd party or progressive candidates under the excuse of “muh RCV” or “vote blue no matter who”, I’d have enough money to bribe the DNC into splitting into multiple parties.
It’s so insane. They’ll yell about the genocide all day but then vote for the candidates supporting the genocide.
Who do they hate the most? Jill Stein, the candidate who opposes the genocide! Make it make sense.
Not only that, they’ll yell at the people who voted for anti-genocide candidates. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been told that I voted for genocide, by vorting for an anti-genocide candidate.
Yeup, same here. They’re just trying to use the genocide now to guilt-trip voters who didn’t support Harris. Because her genocide would’ve been better, I guess??
She had an entire year to put her foot down and say, “This is fucked!” and the best thing she could say was “We gotta make a deal.” No details, no idea what kind of a deal. Oh, and lots of excuses for Israel.
If you actually want to make things better then you have to use methods that have a chance of actually working. We have overwhelming historical evidence showing that voting third-party doesn’t.
It really hasn’t been tried.
Except for Perot, Nader, Stein, etc, etc, etc. You’re right! If you ignore all the times it’s been tried, then it’s never been tried!
You said that “voting third party doesn’t work”. The vast majority of voters do not vote for alternative parties or candidates, so no, it hasn’t been tried.
Did you mean to say “Running third party doesn’t work”?
No, Pakistan does not have RCV. Hell they don’t even have a qualified election system with the amount of falsified ballots, yet the third party still defeated that system.
We also have overwhelming historical evidence that voting for the current batch of Democrats doesn’t work.
So you see no difference between 2021-2024 and what’s going on right now?
Of course I see a difference. I see the systems that the Democrats and Republicans built coming to fruition. I see the trends that the Democrats ignored increased. I see the societal problems from then tuned up a few notches, because the Democrats were too busy bombing kids, backing a genocide, and bailing out their rich friends to fix.