• PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de
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    4 hours ago

    Yeah let’s spread misinformation and romanticize the past so we can blame our problems on bad actors and bad times rather than recognize and address the systemic causes that have pervaded social media since its inception.

    sorry for being so salty and sarcastic, in a weird mood rn

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      Systems are made of people. So yeah, remove the bad actors and you already have a better system.

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        52 minutes ago

        Systems are also made of rules, and bad rules can turn good people into bad people. That’s kind of the point of critical race theory

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          People have to make the rules, and choose if they enforce them, and choose if they obey them. Ultimately, it comes back to people.

    • HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      10 hours ago

      Whaaaat TIL

      In 2005, two years after launching the site, Anderson and DeWolfe sold Myspace to Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. for $580 million. Afterward, Anderson continued working as the company’s president. He retired from active involvement with Myspace in 2009 or 2010 as its popularity waned and Facebook usurped it as the most popular social networking site.

      He then went to burning man and traveled and got into travel photography. Lives between Hawaii, LA, and vegas

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    Also MySpace was one of the first platforms to use a built-in targeted advertising model, and partnered with Google for both adserve, indexing, and search. To say they didnt sell data is the same as saying Facebook doesn’t sell data, they were the data user, selling ad space based on profiling users.

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    10 hours ago

    Revisionist bullshit. Despite what came later, Facebook was the privacy-respecting alternative to MySpace at the time.

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      My memory of MySpace was creating over 2 dozen accounts and maxing out the Playlists.just a bunch of my favorite albums uploaded, as my friends ‘private’ music server.

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      How was the “dumb fucks” platform ever privacy-respecting? The shit came out later, but it was always a privacy nightmare since the farmville days and even as “The Facebook”

      edit: I just read another comment about the Google adserve partnership, didn’t know that, guess I see your angle now. But still, it was only surface appearance of privacy, behind the scenes the Zucc has always been the same and doing their own tracking instead of partnering with someone else

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        I don’t know why are you so angry with poor Zucc. He just wanted to oogle his classmate’s bathsuit pics, isn’t that relatable?

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    For example, in 2006, when Facebook decided to open its doors to the public – not just college kids with .edu addresses – they understood that most people interested in social media already had accounts on Myspace, a service that had been sold to master enshittifier Rupert Murdoch the year before. Myspace users were champing at the bit to leave, but they were holding each other hostage.

    Those live, ongoing connections to people – not your old posts or your identifiers – impose the highest switching costs for any social media service. Myspace users who were reluctant to leave for the superior lands of Facebook (where, Mark Zuckerberg assured them, they would never face any surveillance – no, really!) were stuck on Rupert Murdoch’s sinking ship by their love of one another, not by their old Myspace posts. Giving users who left Myspace the power to continue talking to the users who stayed was what broke the floodgates, leading to the “unraveling” that boyd observed.

    https://pluralistic.net/2024/12/14/fire-exits/

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      Wow, I had no idea about the Facebook/MySpace message bridge bot. Definitely shows the power and importance of the various bridge/mirror projects like Bridgy. It says that the same kind of bot would now be Fedrally illegal in the US, but I haven’t seen any specifics about that, and seems like the EU just made it mandatory to enable through APIs.

      I have thought a bit about this and how to breakout of silos, and it seems like now with LLM tools accessing the browser it will be nearly impossible to prevent messaging and posts from being cross-platformed, though the compute cost would be higher than by using the old API method.

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        You don’t need llm to import posts from another website, just an API or scraper to fetch them. Much cheaper, faster and more reliable.