• Justas🇱🇹@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    inb4 those fired show hosts start their YouTube channels and air their shows there. A Lithuanian journalist has been doing it for 10 years now and so can they.

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      3 days ago

      Someone else made a good point about that on a different thread; they brought up the fact that youtube revenue wouldn’t be able to support his staff and writers.

      Maybe he could do a show on YouTube, but it would have to be very different and it would still leave a lot of folks jobless.

    • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      3 days ago

      Google can just as easily be squeezed and threatened by Trump to take-down any youtubers they don’t like

  • MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl
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    3 days ago

    They have literally taken charlie kirks death and used it as a means to attack left leaning people from all walks of life.

    • This is a full blown government takeover of the America media
    • Their forcing left leaning people out of their jobs in almost every industry.

    And what makes this even worse is that it is so blatantly obvious that the info surrounding kirks shooter is almost a complete invention of the trump administration. The ridiculous bullets. The note that magically disappeared. The text messages that sound as if they were written by a 55 year old…

    This country is so good and truly fucked. It just so depressing and sad. And even more depressing because it seems like no one is really even trying to fight back.

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      3 days ago

      It’s almost like you have to fight for your rights. The pacifist party is never going to do that, so wave goodbye…

  • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 days ago

    The US has always been fascist, since Manifest Destiny up to and after WWII. Fascism is just now turning inward towards the people who never thought they’d see this end of the stick.

    Still, despite all the hatred and forces pushing us apart and pinning us down, this is our opportunity to restructure the country and make reparations to those we’ve wronged.

    Have radical optimism in the face of radical hatred.

    • Krudler@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      I really appreciate this remark but I think it kind of leaves something out, among the hopeful message.

      I think America is actually experiencing the greatest theft of wealth, being transferred AWAY from the middle- and lower- classes, TO the ruling Elite.

      I see people dancing up and down on leopards ate my face, just as one random example… But the short-term mockery misses the long-term pain under which we will all suffer.

      There are farmers who love Trump who are going to lose their farms, when they are purchased by large conglomerates, after their overseas markets were intentionally destroyed with tariffs. The last thing this world needs is more Monsanto-esque food control.

      There are huge swaths of US tourist properties that are going up for fire sale in the next couple years. All of that land is going to be stolen because no one can/will visit. Although tourism is a huge industry, it’s still highly competitive and the margins are razor thin. Most tourist destinations will not be able to weather the storm.

      Manufacturing, agriculture, travel… like… I could just make a list of so many lives that businesses that are going to be destroyed. And there’s fatcats just waiting to strike and steal what they have built, for pennies on the dollar.

      America is in a massive crisis right now. People are so busy focusing on mockery and schadenfreude and identity politics, there’s not a lot of talk about what’s actually going on in the bigger picture!

      All of America’s wealth is being stolen. Every citizen is having their generational wealth swindled from under them. Even if there’s not a direct loss one could point to, massive inflation has horrendously deflated a century of citizens’ wealth building. Families have been set back generations, even if the course is reversed. Reproductive rights are almost gone. Bump more children out with less ability to feed them, more slaves.

      It’s such a dire situation and people aren’t grasping the scope of it. It freaks me the hell out.

      • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
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        3 days ago

        What you’re describing here is the process that will drive the change parent speaks of. The dispossesion you’re pointing out is what will make people come together against the dispossessors.

      • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        There have been other times in the USA’s history where rich robber barons have held the majority of power.

        Thankfully, class consciousness (and political integrity) had emerged enough during those times for the working class to claw back freedoms they lost to the capitalists. Look at May Day for how we earned a 40 hour work week and weekends.

        I do agree with you though. There is more wealth disparity today than any other time in human history. The working class response to this betrayal by the rich must reflect this in kind, and achieve unprecedented levels of equity and equality compared to any other time in human history.

        That may sound ideal, but it’s necessary. Suffering across the world may have decreased in the past 40-50 years, but the benefits of technology and the 21st century have not trickled down to the workers. Stuff should be cheaper because we’ve displaced our labor with robotics and freed our time and energy with better tools (e.g. assembly lines). It is a crime that things have only gotten more expensive as time has passed.

        Power over the masses is of course the culprit. Capitalist power ensures the majority are enslaved to their 9-5s, their student loan debt, and even the ever prescient force to abolish ownership of stuff in favor of rent. There’s a reason why socialism is becoming a popular ideology in Democratic and Left-leaning populations: capitalism isn’t apart of it.

        • EarthshipTechIntern01@lemmy.world
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          3 days ago

          The Orange turd may actually help make things better again.: It was last time that oligarchs/robber barons had too much power that FDR changed the game & gave power back to the people.

  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    And when that canary croaks, it’ll be another. And another and another, so long as we don’t have to get up off our asses and stamp out these evil fuckers and undo their shit

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      3 days ago

      It’s not that easy though. We are at the conclusion of a decades long campaign to poison not just our government and politics, but our society as well. Take out every fascist tonight, and we still have to contend with the fact that, as a people, we are no longer capable of operating a democracy. Healing the divides and fixing generations of indoctrination takes time we don’t have.

      I’m not saying there is no hope, but we have to sober about the tasks ahead of us if this country is ever going to heal.

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      4 days ago

      He was fired because that was the plan when Colbert was fired. They literally said he was next.

      • Optional@lemmy.world
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        4 days ago

        Okay but why in that way - during the taping of a show? That doesn’t seem very “planned”. That seems like a desperate rush.

        Over the weekend would have been smoother. Hell, just about any other way would have been smoother.

        They gave Colbert another year.

        • Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.ca
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          Someone in the administration (not Trump obviously) is smart enough to know to strike while the iron is hot. Use the Charlie Kirk killing to justify all kinds of shit that they want to do anyway while they have an angry army of supporters to shout down anyone who dares to speak up against their actions.

          They were always going to declare antifa a “terrorist organization.” They were always going to come after Kimmel. They were always going to put democrats on lists to be investigated. The MAGA anger over Kirk’s killing just gave them the opportunity to speed up the timeline and they couldn’t let it go to waste.

        • Gerudo@lemmy.zip
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          4 days ago

          Colbert getting canned was a test. They saw they could get away with it, so now gloves are off and off Kimmel goes in one night.

          Everything they do is a test to see if they can get away with something. If they do, they ratchet up to the next horrendous idea.

          • Optional@lemmy.world
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            4 days ago

            I don’t doubt they wanted to gauge reactions. I doubt ABC was part of that in any way.

            • BeeegScaaawyCripple@lemmy.world
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              Sorry I can’t gauge your sarcasm I just watched Anne Rice bullshit. So just in case:

              When asked by Jonathan Karl at ABC News asks

              What do you make of Pam Bondi saying she’s gonna go after hate speech? I mean, a lot of your allies say hate speech is free speech

              Krasnov responds

              [I] should probably go after people like you, because you treat me so unfairly. You have a lot of hate in your heart. Maybe they’ll come after ABC.

              And a few days later an open loudmouthed and funny critic of Krasnov gets fired at ABC. No connection whatsoever.

            • Gerudo@lemmy.zip
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              4 days ago

              Whether they were or weren’t, they didn’t try to stand up and say no. That’s all the information I need.

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Happens to him? He’s already been removed. He’s just another fascist step forward. Nothing will happen to him. It’s the next step you need to be concerned with, and the next, and the next… eventually we’ll get to someone being executed, but that’ll be after opposition is instantly jailed without trial.

  • annoyinglyfish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 days ago

    i’ve noticed something not so funny about when facism gets called out in the mainstream; out loudly enough to be heard. Seemingly, its usually only when it starts to inconvenience cishet ablebodied white people.

  • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    my retirement plan was dying in the water wars already, I guess the timetable has been moved forward ralsei-doobie

  • DagwoodIII@piefed.social
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    4 days ago

    There is only one thing we can do.

    Make it about Epstein 24/7. Write his name on the walls and shout it in the streets.

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        To be fair, even fucking Margorine Tator Tot Green is pissed about him hiding the Epstein files. I think you underestimate how badly core MAGA want it released. It really could be the thing that takes all this down.

        • assembly@lemmy.world
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          Trump supporters don’t care that he is a pedo or fascist. The only folk who can be influenced are the non-voting undecideds. Getting folk out to vote is the only way we have a chance out of this. That’s why the MAGATs are trying to reduce voting participation. They know that is their Achilles heel. If more people vote, they lose, and they know it.

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            Yeah it’s all a smokescreen. They’ll just shrug it off for their dear leader like everything else. Anyone left supporting Trump are traitors and already quadruple doubled down on his lies and are not the type to admit they’re wrong. It’s just the latest carrot for the Dems to chase while he robs our country.