If the past 8 years aren’t enough for you to see where things are headed, I’m guessing you are in the “it’s not happening until it affects me personally” camp.

So any attempt at pretending that there isn’t an anti-meritocracy angle to this would be disingenuous to say the least.

DEI initiatives aren’t perfect, and like anything else you have individuals who may misapply or overzealously apply their principles, causing a different sort of problem.

To deny that, or to pretend that such misapplication is the typical mainstream application of DEI principles, would be equally disingenuous.

As far as I understand, DEI as a policy in a university or workplace means giving place to a candidate because not of their merits or test scores, but because of their race or background.

Isn’t that racism?

This is the distorted mudslinging version. It may not be what you intended, but it’s what you’ve learned via right wing propaganda.

DEI seeks to correct biases that have been inherent in US hiring practices for years - things as fundamental as “if your name sounds too black you don’t get called for interviews as often, even with the same qualifications”. (Linked literally the first article I found about it, but there are plenty more, and this is just an easy example.)

Some of these biases come from people actually being bigots, but some of them come from “that’s just how we’ve always done it” or even just simple unconscious bias that we all have.

Some of the shitty outcomes are from the fact that in the early, early foundational days of many aspects of US government and law, the country was by and large run by people who weren’t too unhappy about lynchings of black people or even participated themselves, and those attitudes found their way overtly and subtly into many practices and regulations that remain in place to this day.

It’s a complicated topic deeply interwoven with our history, our geography, and our culture.

DEI initiatives aren’t perfect, and like anything else you have individuals who may misapply or overzealously apply their principles, causing a different sort of problem.

But the Republican/Conservative objections to them are, like the Conservative assessments of literally any topic I can think of, based at best upon a shallow, incomplete understanding of cherrypicked details, (see comment from @badmin@lemm.ee below) and at worst based on exactly the bigotry and racism they shout about not having in their hearts despite their every action proving how untrue that is.

Edited to add - DEI isn’t limited to racism, and racism isn’t limited to black people. There is of course sexism, homophobia, etc in there as well. But this is a comment on a forum, not a research paper, and the more dimensions we try to add to the discussion here, the more complicated it will get. So I focused on racism against black folks because it’s an easily visible, and sadly, familiar topic.

All good, no worries, still a great writeup!

First, thanks for taking the time to do that writeup!

Second - do you happen to have links to any likely sources that would present that info in a digestible manner? I’m not asking this to challenge you, I’m asking so I have linkable references in future discussion.

Thanks!

In case you weren’t referencing this, be amazed:

https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-sue-cybertruck-buyers-they-resell-in-first-year-2023-11?op=1

Let’s not forget the quality. Also poor.

I frequent a bagel place that automatically adds a fairly hefty (not THAT hefty) tip when you pre-order online for in-store pickup.

If not for the fact that they are by far the best place to go for bagels in my area (we have few choices), that alone would stop me from ordering.

Their bagels are good, and I’m not above tipping at a bagel place. But their prices are already very high for a bagel place (they know what they got), they do brisk business, and they should damn well be paying their employees more rather than trying to sneak a 25% tip into every online order. It doesn’t even present it as in OP - it’s just there in the itemization in the end and you need to manually edit it out before ordering.

Edt - oh and if real, I ain’t never going back to the place in OP after seeing that one time.

The thing is, I think that might be out of the frying pan and into the fryer at this point.

Vance is cooler under pressure in interviews and generally more coherent sounding. I think he does a far better job of saying ridiculous unreasonable things with a convincing tone of voice and demeanor than does Trump.

If Trump has one too many cheeseburgers tomorrow, then we’ve got young, clean-cut, smooth talking first-term President Vance to worry about, and I bet he won’t be threatened by the attention Musk gets as long he he gets his cut. (Hell, I’m not even sure having to take over for Trump in that circumstance would count as his first term.)

It’s roughly the same percentage of Canadians who are SOMEHOW pro-US invasion of Canada

Yeah, I noticed some of those users when blocking a bunch of magas elsewhere, and it was very o_O to see, too.

How the hell do only 78% oppose?

I almost wish that hadn’t been sarcasm, only because I haven’t seen libtard in the wild in a long time. 😀

Not a meme

Not a problem!

Literally had this conversation in our house in the past 72 hours about their “Burrito Sized” wraps. (but over here in the US)

We don’t normally buy that brand, but we have in the past and it was all that was avail.

My wife opened it up and was like WTF.

Remind me how much that is helping you out next time you are trying to make a wrap from a taco sized tortilla.

Well, if we still have a nation four years from now, someone who cares about consumer protection might do something about that.

I’ll try hard not to become a troll posting this under every headline, but that’s my reaction to just about every article now of this sort.

Company, Republican Politician, or Billionaire does something clearly unethical and probably illegal, which is officially noted and reported on.

Yeah, and? It’s not a non-wealthy citizen, a democrat, or an entity targeted by maga as woke, so we can be sure the impact of this information will be most likely zero.

We are on the stupidest, bitterest timeline.

Yes, that was one reason for the quotes. (and the winking)