It was pretty mild compared to the shit you might’ve seen on LiveLeak tbh.

I remember seeing a video called “unnecessarily slow beheading” there. After that, uh, seeing a stranger get shot just seems so mundane. It’s fucked.

Curious.

Yea but people are idiots.

I mean, so are most of us at this point. Though working to buy more guns and stuff for “freedom” is peak irony.

So suicides in general weren’t dramatically affected, only the method differed?

Problem in the US is that the genie is out of the bottle now. Start removing guns by force and the people who are already predisposed to shooting up events, are going to be keeping them AND they’l have affirment for their conspiracy theories so they’re even more likely to shoot shit up.

I agree Americans should never have been allowed to buy guns like this, it’s just not a fixable problem right now. Other things need to be fixed first.

Gun suicides or suicides in general?

Because suicides will always be an issue. Guns just make it easier. How many mass shootings have the swiss had though? Switzerland has a “List of mass shootings” article on Wikipedia. The US has a “ListS of mass shootings” category. The US list for 2018 alone is significantly longer than Switzerland’s list starting with 1905. I realize that Switzerland has a smaller population, but the per capita rates have a large discrepancy too. Something like a 9x difference.

Aye, but when all the lunatics already have guns and you remove the guns from the responsible citizens, is that putting people in more or less danger?

I think it’s too late at this point to solve this one via gun control.

Too late now unfortunately. The people who’d need to give up their guns, will never do so voluntarily. The actually responsible gun owners might give theirs away though.

It’s media, education and the political system that need to change. It won’t.

They can’t really ensure a positive worst case scenario. 15% is the minimum down payment where I live unless you use extra collateral, but a home could lose half its value if there’s a major economic downturn.

They’re just mitigating bad scenarios, not anything close to the worst case.

So that’s part of the same point. They COULD have access to guns and could shoot each other, but nobody wants to. Thus guns are only a problem when there’s other underlying issues.

Ah but is that not something they opt to do because they feel safe? In comparison, American gun nuts would never do that, they don’t feel safe without their guns.

It’s not a dumb comparison because it shows that in a healthy society, people don’t try to murder each other even given the chance. The fact that Americans buy guns for “freedom” is a symptom, not the root cause of all issues.

Ah, I was not aware. I always did wonder how they did it on converted equipment, as the factory-built CNG buses here have something like a 13.6 compression ratio not 19ish like the diesels that get converted.

Kind of misleading then that the company doing the conversions doesn’t mention it.

It’s not JUST the guns tbh. Everyone in Switzerland has a gun and they don’t shoot eachother up. American society is fucked up on multiple different levels and the guns are just adding extra fuel and oxygen to a forest fire.

Diesels get modified to run CNG all the time where I’m from, but I’m not entirely sure how much extra modification they require. LPG conversions on gasoline engines are much simpler, but the diesel CNG conversions exist too - just not for passenger cars generally.

I assume that have to lower the compression ratio somehow and that’s why they cost so much more than the gasoline to LPG conversions

No, but he did an ad for Kamala and seems an overall cool dude

I believe Vivaldi composed this one.

Fair enough, I’ve achieved that once or twice, but not more. Tbh between some partners getting 0 orgasms over 3 years together and some getting 20 in one session I’m starting to think this depends on the woman herself even more than the man’s abilities.

My ex-wife’s daughter from a previous relationship. Used to be my stepdaughter, now she’s not. Maybe a weird way to phrase it, I guess.

Her mom never really had much time for her or later, our shared child. So the first one was super spoiled by smart devices from a very early age and the second one… idk, but I’m hoping I’ll do better than her.

That’s one thing, but there’s definitely a factor of “if there’s a market downturn AND we have to foreclose, we don’t want to lose too much”.