Yeah I see a number of these around with this dealership sticker on them: https://www.americancarcity.fr/ and I have to laugh because of the impracticality and expense.

The only American salaries consistently lower than European salaries are service worker salaries, who are not high skilled workers.

1. Not a high skilled worker
2. Don’t live in America any longer

No, if I’m between real jobs, I do whatever other sorts of work needed to pay my bills. I have worked with plenty of high skilled people who did just as I described though, immigrants, Americans, etc. they earn twice a European salary for two years, then get laid off in a downturn or quit and spend a year doing dumb shit and net out ahead anyway.

Didn’t say it was fair, but that is what high earners are doing.

What they don’t tell you is that the real American way for high skilled workers is to work a couple years, then get laid off or quit to take 6-8 months off doing woodworking or van life or some shit. Maybe found a company if you are too bored with what you are doing or start a YouTube channel. Americans take the time it’s just that they do it between jobs not during

So you want the city to outlaw them through zoning. I disagree that zoning should be used to determine approved uses of your own space.

Either people are free to use their space for a garage, or you have to outlaw them in some way, maybe zoning? Who decides too much space? The city? I agree with you that they shouldn’t be required, maybe even that they shouldn’t be normalized. However, if someone wants to dedicate some of their yard space to a garage where a classic car is stored, I don’t think the city should get a say.

I think our views may be closer than you think. I don’t think ANY parking space should be mandated in most places as a part of zoning, nevermind garages. I just don’t differentiate between someone using their own space for a garage vs a garden or a wood shop.

I definitely don’t think garages should be required or even normalized in high density neighborhoods. But I also don’t think they should be outlawed if someone wants to use their own space to store a classic car.

They are different though, because they aren’t used every day for commuting and for deliveries. In the same way a camp fire is ok because we aren’t producing our electricity from burning wood and we also aren’t relying on it every day for heat.

It’s not that classic cars don’t contribute to the total amount of pollution (as well as GHG), it’s that the amount they contribute is far outweighed by many other sources of emissions. There are many choices we make each day which result in higher emissions than strictly necessary. I assume you do not live in a lean to built from dead sticks and eat only native scavenged plants while walking everywhere wearing clothes you have fashioned yourself from native plant sources.

No, you have decided to live in a comfortable home consisting of an excess of materials many of which were imported while typing out your responses on an imported device built from mined metals and hydrocarbons.

Do you not worry about a safe place to keep your bicycle when you get somewhere?

Yes, the point is we use space in the quantity we can afford and for the things we care about. Knitting may require less space but if I want a metal shop or an art studio or a classic card, so what? Is it immoral to use more space for something than absolutely needed to survive? Are you suggesting we outlaw garages in city centers with the intention to dedicate that square footage to living space?

It’s not a bad idea theoretically but it gets a bit sticky because it would not be a leap to determine that a couple doesn’t need a 3000sf apartment even if they can afford it, or a green space insufficiently reduces living space square footage cost.

So do camp fires, gas stoves, candles, light aviation, pleasure boats, etc. I can respect your position as consistent if you feel that nothing should ever be burned unless accidental or absolutely required to save human life, and we can agree to disagree. It is my opinion that smoke from wood fires is a greater irritant than the passing of a classic car on a Sunday morning.

I don’t disagree that public transport, bikeable cities and mixed use development is the only way we beat climate change. However, people using space to store a classic car is not different than dedicating space to any other hobby. Not everything needs to be purely utilitarianism.

Hear that boys? They mentioned egalitarianism. Round this user up, off to Uganda.

Until you get some kind of chronic illness and run out of money after about three appointments, then I guess set up a go fund me? You are required to be stabilized but not treated.

I had a car caught up in this in Colorado and had to get rid of it. Specifically, I had to remove a bunch of obsolete air pump equipment and update the fueling system with a much more modern electronically controlled system. The car was measurably better than it’s original standards but failed the visual check because it was missing the old, polluting, inefficient and unavailable parts.

If the car still meets the emissions of it’s day, put a mileage limit on it and let it go. If there are too many on the road then implement a nontransferrable lottery system to get classic plates for them. The amount of pollution these few tens of thousands of vehicles put out being used a couple of times a month is a drop in the bucket compared to everything else that continues to get a pass.

Why not start banning camp fires? What about old boats? Stationary power units? These all seem to get a pass and probably dwarf the emissions of classic cars being used occasionally.

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