Edit: love the downvotes, but could i ever get a reason for what was actually objectionable in my comment? other than requiring you to maybe think differently about something you already had your mind made up about? i’m sorry if i offended defector.com for not properly framing the problem.
blind tribal reaction is the only way i guess.
– Love a good strawman in the morning.
Those feeling a chill in the air are the “scale only” peeps, who were all in on not thinking too hard about the problem. Those focused on more than selling LLMs have a very different framing.
As for why AI agents aren’t functional, we do actually have a better understanding that doesn’t seem to want to leak out of niche academic areas.
The amount we’ve learned about intelligent systems this past half decade feels like a whole new world.
Deskilling is an issue already without AI. To summarize, minimizing energy expenditure is very important due to evolutionary history. No just to people, but to group that creates simplified models that don’t disturb people’s normal trajectory. Cause learning a new model to predict the world takes energy. They do this by making predictable heuristics that are functional enough, but allow the daily scripts to continue unhindered. These simplified heuristics sometimes are too simple, and not robust enough to survive when the environment changes. Think pandas, who got deskilled at staying alive outside of a very specific environment.
So. In the same way humanity needs to learn to become more robust via diverse but communication focused intelligent systems. Anyone in social sciences knows that evidence strongly shows that diversity representation is weirdly good for any intelligent group.
Similarly, the better forms of AI currently being ignored are actually built from that end of things, rather than trying to force all perspectives and preferences to live simultaneously in a single model. It creates informational and contextual choke points.
Also wish i could run into more people who actually study intelligence in these threads.
Clickbait journalism is a scourge on science. At least the public awareness of sycophantic echo chambers enabling delusional spirals is something good for people to think about,
Since any idea can survive in a similar segregated confirmation bubble that mechanically cuts off outside ideas and education to preserve the existing group world model.
And i keep saying laziness should be described by such solipsism, but instead you get called lazy if you aren’t feeding your full life to the machine.
Just wish progressive public discourse was more generally informed in this area, because it’s very important to understanding society, our bodies, and intelligent systems as a whole.
This is how I’ve been addressing it. Category error, because the current framing of sports is… Really dumb
Frankly most global level competition is just people flexing how make affordances people have. Imagine trying to ruin people’s lives to protect the sacred structure of mild eugenics through some social hierarchy or another.
But if ‘fairness’ is the goal, then the wealthy would be a much more deserving population to nerf or exclude.
Not that I think sports and competition are not valid forms of practice and fun, but you’re not as ‘better’ as you think because you had the resources to master an eco-niche that doesn’t actually do anything other than give you monkey hierarchy feelings. You also shouldn’t have the right to exclude people who make it hard to believe in that stupid oversimplified terrain that the preference style was built upon.
But TERFs and other bigots never got anywhere being thoughtful about others or the world they live in.