The users on this site are so cooked. Mans is getting downvoted for using the correct terminology lol.
The users on this site are so cooked. Mans is getting downvoted for using the correct terminology lol.
I give thumbs up all the time. Usually two of them at the same time with a forced smile to let people know I wanna turn into oncoming traffic every day.
I don’t even know what you mean I’ve been tagged as a Rogan listener in your app. I haven’t listened to Rogan regularly since before covid and he lost his damn mind. If someone else is slapping labels on me they got that one fuckin wrong lol.
Also I have said several times im not a centrist. I’m a former Democrat that still leans left on most issues, but I can’t identify with today’s Democrats or the left.
What a stupid fucking response to what I said.
It’s like you didn’t even read my comment. That or you read it and proceeded to understand exactly none of it.
Whatever dude. I’m not gonna waste any more energy trying to talk to you fuckin morons. None of you are even capable of having normal conversations anymore.
Good night.
Jesus Christ you people are impossible to have any real dialogue with.
Pretty fuckin insulting to tell me my father’s degree doesn’t matter. Also WW2 was/is a pretty fucking important time in the world history so it gets a lot of coverage. Especially what the Germans were doing leading up to the start of the war as it’s kinda relevant to how the whole thing happened in the first place.
That initial article you posted which again has ZERO FUCKING SOURCES has been posted on multiple history subreddits as well as a few times on other more history specific forums/sites.
The majority of Germans at the time didn’t want to finish the Autobahn as it was seen as a waste of time and resources. Hitler was the one that saw the potential and pushed to make it happen.
Now for this last part I’ll say it really slowly so your lone remaining braincell can understand me.
HITLER WAS AND WLL ALWAYS A TERRIBLE, EVIL PERSON. THE NAZIS WERE AND ALWAYS WILL BE HORRIBLE PEOPLE.
You came into a conversation that wasn’t even really about Hitler and you highjacked it with your unsubstantiated revisionist German “history” while screaming about Nazi propaganda.
Back to my original conversation. Good people that helped many have also done bad things. Bad people who were evil have also done good things. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Your inability to admit that such a terrible person could have ever done anything perceived as “good” is really alarming. You are in denial of reality because of your deep (and valid) hatred for that man. You can admit that Hitler did things that had a positive impact on Germany in the long term. It doesn’t undo anything evil he did. The two facts can coexist.
I’m not defending Hitler as a person nor am I defending the Nazi party in any way. I was simply pointing out that something those terrible people did happens to have ended up as a good thing later on down the line. It does not excuse their other actions in any way.
My father is a historian. Has a degree in world history. Plus that article has been posted to several history forums over the last ~10+ish years as best I can tell and not once has it included sources or been taken seriously by any of the historians that read it.
You’ve then linked a German website and a German Wikipedia page. I am not fluent in German so I can’t read them, but they are both German hosted so I suspect some modern German biases probably apply. It would behoove any and all Germans to forever distance themselves from Hitler whenever possible but I also see that extending past reality with people trying rewrite history such as yourself.
Pre-Nazi Germany had something like ~15-20km of Autobahn built. Post-Nazi Germany had almost ~4000km of Autobahn. Stop trying to come at me with some “Nazi propaganda” bullshit. Those are both facts that you can independently verify if you want.
It’s perfectly fine to despise the Nazis. I highly recommend it at all times. I DONT agree with trying to rewrite history because we don’t agree with the optics of it today.
Have a good day teletubbyzurückwinker.
…do you think that in order for humanity to function we constantly need to be changing? You never think that maybe we level off at some point and settle into a groove where we leave shit alone for awhile?
Have to considered that maybe we as a species require both to function? We need progress and then periods of stability before we get bored/restless and decided to take over the spice trade in our neighborhood?
Light and dark. Yin and Yang.
We need progressives to push for change and we need conservatives to pull the reigns back when we try and change too much too quickly and things start falling apart.
My point this entire time was that good people do bad things. Bad people do good things. Humans are complicated. Our history is even more complicated. At no point has any side or group been “right” forever.
You’ve missed the point of all my previous comments entirely. Good job.
The irony of you telling me to stop posting Nazi propaganda and then linking an article with zero sources that many historians have already called out as just being a Nazi smear article not based in historical fact whatsoever.
Not really the “gotcha” you were going for but you believe whatever you wanna believe I guess.
Please use my preferred title: “moderate retard”.
Do you people have any amount of self awareness?
Do you legitimately believe that anything and everything the right has ever said or done has been wrong?
Most people would say that Hitler was a terrible person (and they would be right), but even the evil as shit Hitler did some Good things in his life even if some people refuse to admit it.
Hitler is credited with pulling Germany out of the post WW1 economic slump. One of the major contributors was his insistence on building the highway/Autobahn. It enabled Germany to expand faster and years before other European countries could catch up
Him and the Nazis were among the first to recognize the health benefits with not smoking and he is credited with pushing Germans to quit smoking but especially pregnant women and kids.
If you want a more recent example:
During Trump’s first Term he made it easier to prosecute financial crimes. The main way he did this was by requiring businesses to report their true owners. No longer would they spend as much time and money digging through shell corporations to figure out who is truly responsible.
If you want a less recent example:
Nixon created the EPA.
Not everything the left does is rainbows and perfection. Not everything the right does is evil and ruins the planet. You need to stop thinking in absolutes and recognize that things are more complicated.
I don’t even think we can fault Zuck for looking. Even robot lizards were wondering why the fuck she wasn’t wearing an actual shirt over that bra lol
Can’t have the population working together to take out the elites. They need us good and pissed off at each other so we are too busy to see them taking everything and giving us scraps constantly.
I don’t consider myself a centrist, but I do consider myself between the two parties currently.
I don’t like the “both sides are wrong” mentality often associated with centrists. I don’t think I am inherently better than either side. I think I am disillusioned by both sides.
I was a Leftist/Democrat for the majority of my life. Then at some point ~8-9 years ago saw the pipeline that leads to radicalized righty thinking and said “fuck that” but when I turned around and looked back on my old party critically I also didn’t want to walk back through that door either.
Basically I think both “sides” need to shut up and stop slinging poop at each other. Occasionally you need to listen to the other side. Neither one is always right or always wrong. Some of the moderates from either side can admit this and they hang out in the middle ish with me. But most people just sprint farther to either side when their ideas are challenged.
But since everyone has this “us vs them” mentality over every little thing I don’t see communication or collaboration getting any better going forward.
I think pretty much everyone is living in various states of denial.
Some don’t care and never will care about facts or logical thinking. They are driven by emotion exclusively and go wherever it takes them. Usually anger and depression.
Some are too stupid to recognize facts or logical thinking.
Many people who think they are above others because they have all the facts and they think they are being logical at all times, but in reality they have at best misunderstood facts or selective facts.
This is isn’t unique to one party or group either. Every single group of people has idiots who think they know everything. Poorly educated who think they understand everything. I believe that generally speaking most people think they are doing the right thing and they want the best for themselves and others around them.
Never attribute to malice what can accurately be explained by incompetence.
People need to stop forgetting about Hanlons Razor
“Strong” as in a very brief period in the 1930s the Nazis worked with Zionists to get Jews into Palestine.
I think you would have a very difficult time making the case that they have had a strong link ever since or consistently for any period in history including right now.
Objectively speaking as a white guy who has no affiliation with either gang… The crip walk is just better.
First time I saw the blood walk I thought it was a joke.
Yeah this was my precise problem. I have seen so many pictures of “Trump doing the Hitler salute” and then you watch the video and he’s just waving at people and then they take a still when it looks questionable.
Nah this is the rare case where the still picture is actually an improvement over the video. What the fuck is Elon doing.
And even then… Sometimes it doesn’t work haha