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  • In my case hexbear, beehaw, lemmygrad…

    In your case lemmygrad…

    Sys admins would user the tools they currently use to delete illegal content, mods would do their job and block users who post it on their communities.

    Mods AND admins power tripping were an issue on Reddit, part of the move to Lemmy came from people being fed up with admins, not mods, remove one from the equation and you’re left with mods that only have control over their communities which can easily be replaced, get banned by an admin here and it’s your whole history you’re losing.

    Good thing because I’m tired of you not understanding.


  • You would have sys admins but no admins that could do anything to users themselves. Which I had already made very clear.

    The automated tools are what current admins use to clean up their servers because users keep uploading illegal content to Lemmy even with the current system. I already mentioned that we well. Unless you somehow believe that the admins currently check every single post being made on their instance or something?

    Here’s a tool to check federation status: https://federation-checker.vercel.app/

    Your instance is defederated from pretty big ones as well.

    Why would users want someone with the power to just wipe their account from existence and the ability to decide what their experience will be in their place? That’s just Reddit again but with even more admins, nothing was solved. My solution involves sys admins that are there to make sure their servers work and that delete illegal stuff from them and that’s it. They have no more power over the user experience than AWS sys admins have power over the user experience on Reddit, because, once again, the goal is to decentralize the back-end independently from the front-end.


  • My instance is a pretty big one and is defederated from other major ones because of the admins on those other instances. That’s tens of thousands of users I (and any other user on my instance) can’t interact with because their admin said so.

    They would need to filter the content being pushed to their server just like current admins have to do even if they elect not to host NSFW content. There’s tools to automate the process. If it’s a non issue with the way things work now then it’s a non issue with what I’m proposing.


  • No, it’s not, each instance hosts its own content, and users are assigned to an instance.

    What I’m talking about is making the end user experience the same as any centralized website, the hosts are just hosting parts of the total database (randomly assigned, with backups in mind so everything is hosted on multiple servers, with the option not to host content flagged as NSFW) and people create front-ends to access and interact with that database. Users aren’t assigned to a specific server, their credentials are just part of the database.

    As I mentioned in my other comment, think like any other website but instead of relying on AWS to host the data on a bunch of servers all over the world, it’s people like you and me and just like Reddit before the API scandal, you let devs create apps to push and pull data.

    From a user perspective that removes the admins from the equation entirely (people weren’t complaining about the sys admins on Reddit, they couldn’t care less about the servers), users are their own boss and filter their experience as they see fit, mods still exist but no one has the power to suddenly device you just can’t interact with tens of thousands of users all of the sudden just because you signed up from the wrong place (in their mind). If an admin decides to stop hosting, the data they had on their server is backed up on other servers and things are rebalanced between servers to make sure there’s still a backup of everything.







  • The server owners would take care of the content hosted on their server and would need to filter it based on their local laws (to remove CSAM for example, just like current admins need to do), but otherwise this type of decentralization would make the website pretty much a neutral zone that operates outside of specific laws since the people hosting the content (and its backups) could be located all over the world.