• pirat@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    Of course you have to pay for internet service to get the included defaults necessary for it to work. Just like you get a bowl/container when ordering hot soup from a restaurant, and just like a phone number is usually included in the price of telephone service – except that a dynamic IP is somewhat analogous to sharing that phone number, or that bowl of soup, with other customers.

    My point is that a static IP is often a paid add-on while the dynamic IP is the included default, since you wouldn’t be able to use the internet service without some sort of IP address anyway.

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      11 days ago

      Of course you have to pay

      and that is my point.

      At the beginning there was the metaphor of being a landlord. Depending on your location in the world, you can buy land, pay nothing monthly and own and use it for ever.

      There is basically no way to do that with a server. But while yall were being obtuse about my point that one needs to “pay rent” for an internet connection. I actually found something interesting that might be a way:

      SIMO Solis Lite Mobile WLAN Router - 100$ one time purchase price. And they claim:

      Includes 1GB of free global data volume per month, for the lifetime of the device

      Of course that only works as long as the company exists and is profitable or whatever they mean by “lifetime of the device” - they could literally build in a fuse that pops after 5 years.

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        Depending on your location in the world, you can buy land, pay nothing monthly and own and use it for ever.

        what the fuck guys, why is anyone paying council rates or land tax when there is any free land left out there. I’ll run the network cables; let’s fuckin’ go.

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          Places without a property tax:

          Lichtenstein, Monaco, Cook Islands, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands.


          If you want specifically “free land”:

          Not a lot of people want to live there.

          You can go to the bumfuck north in russia and nobody will come check whether you’ve built a house in the woods or not. In general, extremely rural places with weak law enforcement will work, albeit being technically illegal.

          There are tribal lands in africa (and probably other tribal areas in latin america) that will accept you and you can build your own hut in their village. There are a couple of historic records of people doing that, even in modern times.

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        11 days ago

        yall were being obtuse about my point that one needs to “pay rent” for an internet connection

        No, it was obviously clear to most of us the whole time that you can pay an ISP to get internet connection, and that that necessarily includes some kind of IP address since the service wouldn’t work without it. Once you have subscribed to a provider’s service, some offer a static IP as a paid add-on.

        SIMO Solis Lite Mobile WLAN Router - 100$ one time purchase price. And they claim: Includes 1GB of free global data volume per month, for the lifetime of the device

        I’m not sure what you’re on about now. You’re still paying rent (though up-front instead of monthly or quarterly), and some IP address is still necessarily included within the price. How is that different to you, other than the fact that you don’t know when it expires?

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          You’re still paying rent (though up-front instead of monthly or quarterly

          thats like saying buying a house is paying a lifetime of rent upfront. It’s true in some sense, but a pretty weird thing to claim.

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      we ran out of IPv4 address space a long fucking time ago, you are infinity more likely to have a static IP address now because you’ll be behind a carrier grade NAT sharing it’s IP. you don’t really pay for a static IP anymore but the ability to directly address you’re own network.